Has anyone ever heard of this or tried it? Apparently it involves drinking about a cup of urine every morning and is supposed to be wonderful for healing various ailments, including ulcerative colitis, which I have been diagnosed with. I can't seem to find any sound medical treatises on it posted on-line, and would like to consult with someone locally who might be knowledgable on this. Apparently, it's fairly widely used in some Eastern countries (or maybe this is a myth), and starting to catch on somewhat in Europe. From what I understand, a friend of mine, whose opinion I respect very much, has a friend that has used it very successfully to treat colitis.
Yes, it seems off the wall, but I'm not necessarily against off-the-wall ideas, as long as they produce sound results. Any insights on why this will or will not work, are appreciated. And I would also love to here a medical practioners' scientific opinion.
Cheers.
Ralph
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It seems obvious that you shouldn't drink stuff that your body has already filtered out once.
Apparently quite a few people in India do this, either with their own urine or with cow's urine. There is even a company that is trying to make it into cola and market it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4592608/India-makes-cola-from-cow-urine.html
This proves that some people will believe anything.
Hi, I live in the UK and practice it.
Check out these books:
Your Own Perfect Medicine: The Incredible Proven Natural Miracle Cure that Medical Science Has Never Revealed!
Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy
The Water of Life
And these websites:
http://biomedx.com/urine/
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm
http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html
This is also known as the R. Kelly Regimen.
Tom: Thanks for the links and book recommendations I will check them out.
Ray: From my preliminary research, the majority of urine is water that is "filtered out" mainly because it's excess. What I'm trying to figure out is how ingesting a small amount (remember, it's only a cup a day) of the rest of stuff mixed in with the water is supposed to help your body. Is has something to do with antibodies, and the malfunciton of antibodies, from what I understand, is the main cause of colitis. Hence, my interest in the topic.
Best,
Ralph
What seems obvious to one person is simply not always true, or involves a personal bias, or even preformed opinion.
Here is a paragraph I found on Urine Therapy:
How can we consume our own waste, when the body itself is rejecting it?
SD: The whole notion of urine as a waste product of the body is wrong.
Urine is made up of chemicals that are discharged by the body at rest. It is only those chemicals that the body was not able to use at that particular time. That in no way makes them waste. However, just as one drinks water from a clean pot, urine must also be free from any adulteration—it must be had in its natural form.
I found that observation interesting, and recall our astronauts will no longer enjoy Tang. Last November, a new Urine-to-Water machine was tested on the Space Station (plus a second toilet is being added up there ---"calling Joe the Plumber"!
The Station crew is being doubled from 3 to 6 and more water is needed to sustain life. Additionally, long term space travel requires this conversion since there is NO WAY to carry the needed water amounts.
I appreciate that you are open to new ideas Ralph, no matter where they come from or how appealing, er, unappealing.
I have a best friend with Chrohn's and will check with him as he has every urologist in the book at work on him.
Colitis is mentioned in one article. I include it for Ralph, and the truly interested. Everyone else can now get some OJ.
Here's the rest Ralph:
THE MIRACLES OF URINE THERAPY BACK TO HOME
By Abhishek Thakore
Auto-urine therapy is an age-old practice of ancient India. Its practitioners talk of Shivambhu, auspicious water of Lord Shiva, a Hindu god and promote it as an inexpensive way to gain health and vitality
"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." -The Book of Proverbs 5:15
A bit of an oddball, auto-urine therapy (AUT) is gaining popularity to combat a host of illnesses and to maintain good health. It is considered effective in treating a wide array of diseases such as multiple sclerosis, colitis, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, cancer, hepatitis, pancreatic insufficiency, psoriasis, eczema, diabetes and herpes.
According to Xinhua news agency more than three million Chinese drink their own urine believing that it is good for their health. AUT is an ancient practice as it finds mention in many old texts of India such as Shivambhu Kalpa Vidhi and Damar Tantra. Shivambhu literally means water of Lord Shiva, a Hindu God. Urine therapists often speak of drinking Shivambhu, which means drinking the water of auspiciousness.
Former Prime Minister of India Morarji Desai, who lived up to the age of 99, has been the most well known proponent of this therapy. He claimed that India would have been better off if more people used this extremely inexpensive and effective way of treatment. He also attributed to AUT the credit for his longevity. Here is a sample of miracles wrought by AUT recently:
· 40-year-old Sabeer (name changed) had asthma since childhood. After being recommended AUT by an allopathic doctor, he was completely healed in 10 months.
· Salome Roy Kapoor had bleeding in her nipples, which got cured by urine therapy and turned Salome into a crusader for the cause.
· Mrs Mohini successfully cured her persisting problem of pigmentation through the application of AUT.
· For Sudarshan Dheer, it was the miraculous cure to an incurable hearing problem and piles.
What is urine therapy?
Urine therapy entails using your own urine externally or internally as a way to promote or maintain good health. Sometimes when all else fails, AUT will turn a patient around. The first question that probably comes to mind is whether urine is a toxic substance and how a waste product already excreted from the body can be of any benefit for your health. Urine is NOT a toxic waste product, claim AUT practitioners. They cite that 95 per cent of urine is water, 2.5 per cent consists of urea and the remaining 2.5 per cent is a mixture of minerals, salt, hormones and enzymes.
Toxic substances are being removed from the body through the liver, intestines, skin and through exhalation. The main function of the kidneys is to keep the composition of the blood in optimal balance. Hence the primary component of urine is not toxic at all. Only urea can be poisonous when present in very large amounts in the blood. However, this is irrelevant in the practice of drinking urine, as urine is not immediately put back in the blood stream. When urea gets back into the body in small amounts, it is purifying, clears up excess mucus and has a number of other useful effects.
Moreover, it has a wonderful healing and toning effect when applied to the skin. Urine is sterile after secretion and has an antiseptic effect. This holds true for those people who follow a reasonably healthy diet, do not use chemical drugs or allopathic medicines. "In my quest for alternative therapies, I came across urine therapy and found it to be very appealing. Something within me said that this was the right therapy for me," says Salome Roy Kapoor, choreographer, dance and grooming teacher in Mumbai, who is now a full-fledged proponent of the therapy. Although many are hesitant to practise AUT initially, Salome was optimistic. "There was no resistance for me-I had a strong belief that this would make a difference," she says.
Dr C.P. Mittal in his book, Miracles of Urine Therapy, speaks about certain doctors in India who believe in AUT but are aware that their patients would not drink it. So when the patient comes for a visit, the doctor would ask for a urine sample. He would take it into the back room, where it is repackaged as medicine, with taste and smell disguised.
"Ways of using AUT"
Drinking:
Morning urine is best. Take the middle stream. You can start with a few drops, building up to one glass a day. Good as a tonic, as a preventive and in minor illnesses.
Fasting:
Drink all the urine you pass, except for the evenings—otherwise you won’t get any sleep. You can also take some extra water. The urine will quickly change its taste into almost neutral. Fasting on urine and water cleanses the blood. Toxins are removed through liver, skin and exhalation.
Gargle:
Gargling with urine works wonders when having a throat-ache. Also good for toothache and generally when having a cold.
Enemas:
Urine enemas work very well in cleansing the colon and in providing a direct immune stimulant.
Vaginal douche:
Helpful in cases such as yeast problems, white discharge, etc.
Ear and eye drops:
For ear infections, conjunctivitis, glaucoma. For the eyes, dilute the urine with some water.
Sniffing urine/Neti:
Sinusitis and other nose problems. Very good preventive for colds and to clean the subtlechannels in the head.
External application
Massaging/rubbing: You can use either fresh or old urine. Old urine (4 to 8 days) is generally more effective, but it has a pungent odour. Massaging the whole body is an important complementary treatment when fasting. It nourishes the body through the skin and helps against increased heartbeat.
You can leave the urine on or wash it off after an hour or so, just with water or with a mild, natural soap. Fresh urine as an after-shave gives you a beautiful soft skin. It is also helpful in all kinds of skin problems such as itching, sunburns, eczema, psoriasis and acne.
Gentle rubbing of urine into acupressure points (for example, on the ears) is useful when reactions are otherwise too strong accompanied by heavy allergic reaction.
Foot baths: Any skin and nail problems of the feet (athlete’s foot and ringworm)
Compress: When rubbing is not appropriate, this is another way of applying urine on the skin.
Hair and scalp massage: Renders the hair soft and clean. Sometimes stimulates new hair growth.
Is it scientific?
Dr B.V. Khare, an allopathic doctor and Mumbai-based follower of AUT, says: "The Italian surgeon Stanislau R. Burzynski, now settled in America, separated anti-neoplastin from human urine and showed remarkable results in the treatment of cancer. Another substance found in large quantities in the urine is called dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). It is a hormone related to testosterone. This, as research showed, has anti-cancer, anti-obesity and anti-aging properties. It has also been found that urea when recycled by ingesting, is converted into essential amino acids."
Medical researchers have discovered that many of the elements of the blood that are found in urine have enormous medicinal value, and when reintroduced into the body, boost the body's immune system and stimulate healing in a unique way. The therapy can be applied in many ways. The most common is to consume your morning urine (not the first few drops) completely and without dilution. Gargling, massage and sniffing have also been found to be useful.
When asked whether it should be practised only during an ailment, Dr Khare replied: "Why do you want to stop at all? I am not suffering from any disease, yet I take three glasses of my own urine every day and massage my body with urine every morning and take bath after one hour. Just like brushing your teeth or going to the toilet every morning, this has to be incorporated in our daily routine. I know a family of four who have not gone to a physician for any ailment for more than a year after being initiated into AUT."
Benefits and experiences
A lot of people have benefited from urine therapy and want to take it further. "Urine therapy makes you feel vital and energized. It has helped me boost my immunity levels. It also helps me to stay slim," says Salome. "I had developed chronic, degenerative disorders that couldn't be helped by conventional medicine and which threatened to permanently destroy my ability to work, function and simply enjoy life," says Martha Christy. "AUT has helped me in several complications, including menstrual problems, pelvic inflammation, ulcerative colitis, Chron's disease (colon inflammation), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), thyroid disorders and mononucleosis."
Commenting on the unusualness of an allopathic doctor promoting this therapy, Dr Khare says: "You will be surprised to know that I treated many doctors with AUT and they were cured of their ailments. However, they do not acknowledge the fact for obvious reasons." Another condition in which AUT provides great relief is chronic amoebic dysentery, which is common in India. Chronic constipation, a problem of old age, is also treated by this method. Two World Urine Conferences have already been held the first in India in February 1996 and the last in Germany in May 1999. For a generation that's obsessed with the aerated drinks, we could definitely benefit much more from the 'Morarji cola'.
Contact: Dr.B.V.Khare; (022) 4145774
"Urine is the best medicine produced by the body"
Excerpts from an interview with Sudarshan Dheer, Founder of Water of Life Foundation, who is a graphic designer by profession:
What is the Water Of Life Foundation all about?
Sudarshan Dheer: Water Of Life is a foundation to promote the cause of urine therapy in India. As you know, urine is the best medicine that our own body produces, and it is free. So we at Water of Life are committed to spreading knowledge about this wonderful therapy to as many people as possible.
How can we consume our own waste, when the body itself is rejecting it?
SD: The whole notion of urine as a waste product of the body is wrong. Urine is made up of chemicals that are discharged by the body at rest. It is only those chemicals that the body was not able to use at that particular time. That in no way makes them waste. However, just as one drinks water from a clean pot, urine must also be free from any adulteration—it must be had in its natural form.
Danny:
Thanks for the post. The concept of "free" is also certainly appealing, as my colitis medicine can run $50 plus per month.
Ralph,
I had no idea you had colitis.
My best friend is also a Ralph and Crohn's is just wiping him out. Ten years younger than me, but healthwise, 40 years older.
It hurts to watch.
We plan a golf game and he is fine at night.
In the am, he is so sick he cannot move out of bed. We cancelled so many times, I no longer set a tee time, and await his call to go now.....and stop what I am doing.
His medicines look like a pharmacy shelf. He has battled this for years, but never mentioned urine therapy.
What I like best is that you are open minded to consider the unexpected, unappealing, almost anything.
It is in the places we least observe, that a miracle can be found......for no one ever looked there before.
Best regards,
Danny Lucas
Ralph, it's a free world and I reserve comment on the practice of drinking your own piss (or anyone else's for that matter). However, the next time I am over for drinks, I want the glasses that you use for your family's consumption and the ones you provide to your guests to be clearly marked and segregated as such.
In Abhishek Thakore's article, he quotes Proverbs 5:15 ("Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." -The Book of Proverbs 5:15) in apparent support of the practice of drinking one's own urine.
That passage in Proverbs is a metaphor for being faithful in marriage, and is IN NO WAY about drinking one's own waste.
If he handles science as well as he handles the Bible, you can be sure that what you are reading is nonsense.
The roots of this practice are not scientific, but rather come from a pagan religious practice. The fact that some people do it and live a long time doesn't prove anything; after all, some people smoke and live a long time.
Also, the idea that astronauts might recycle their urine doesn't prove anything. It is thoroughly filtered, so that what they are drinking is water.
"The roots of this practice are not scientific, but rather come from a pagan religious practice."
ALL of religiosity and churchianity comes from pagan practice.
And,....we are now led to believe a Scriptual authority here, that scientific sanction is required to drink your pee, but scientific sanction is to be abhorred with regard to creationism.
Sounds like forked-tongue thinking out of Genesis.
Proverbs 5:15 is indeed a metaphor for marital faithfulness and purity.
but, "Wells and cisterns were privately owned and of great value", says the concordance....an authority to interpret metaphors. And metaphors are not limited to what one of 39,000 denominational interpretations say it is.
2 Kings 18:31 speaks of "drinking water from his own cistern", and the metaphor there is "depicting peaceful and prosperous times".
Now we have two metaphors for the same thing.
Jeremiah 38:6 allows a cistern as a source for murder, not metaphorically either.
It would not be hard to list another half dozen metaphors on the topic, so if the author in the article chooses to make a metaphor to his story on urine, I do not see much diference since the practice of utilizing Biblical phrases metaphorically seems universal. (It is done at churches every Sunday sermon).
I have often quoted Leviticus 29:40 to people in an argument being made.
They are just as adamant that their Bible line is correct and Leviticus 29:40 is wrong. At this point, I usually tell the Bible "authority", that Leviticus 29:40 does not exist, indeed all of Chapter 29 does not exist, for Leviticus ends at 27. And then I walk away from utter foolishness they preach.
Nearly every sermon preached draws upon a specific phrase, takes it out of context, reconstitutes itself with whatever a pastor wants to say, and the people walk out believing HIS version.
The current 39,000 Christian denominations are expected to grow to 54,000 by the year 2015 since they prefer to split, than agree.
NONE realise there is but one church and it belongs to the Lord. Those outside of HIS church, even though professing to be believers will meet the Lord and yell "Lord Lord Let us in (to heaven)".
These are "belivers" for they call Him Lord.
He replies "Get away from me. I NEVER knew you" and slams the gate of Heaven shut to them.
Those folks belong to the 39,000 current and growing denominations. The Lord NEVER knew them and they do not know which ones He refers to.....because they, and they alone are always correct. And God better start getting that pretty soon, or else!
Science HAS proven it is not WASTE filtered out.
It is intake unconsumed for the moment and expelled.
Indeed, the actual filter is the kidney/liver system and anyone can buy those and eat them from the grocery shelf. If they were full of toxins, as one would expect from a toxin filter, those meats would kill the eater. But they don't. So we need to search another metaphor in the Bible I guess.
Distilling on Earth can not be done in a weightless environment of space. Impurities remain despite the process. The verdict is not in, since the application has yet to be tested in space, though the technology is there.
To assert that science has made that water ok to drink since it is filtered and now water, is false to date, and incorporates science as an authority NOT to be quibbled with.
So much for creationism, stem cell research, and a myriad of topics where fundamentalists and scientists clash in belief.
One thing is sure and obvious, you can not use science to bolster one argument, and science to debunk another. You accept science or you don't.
Christians by their very nature, rely on faith. NO science can prove faith.
True followers of Christ recognise the revelation over time that science has unleashed; a gift from the Holy Spirit called discernment and wisdom.
This part is amusing to the point of making me laugh out loud:
"The fact that some people do it and live a long time doesn't prove anything; after all, some people smoke and live a long time."
See how any argument can be twisted?
Lay it out.
Just because you are a member or attender of any of the 39,000 Christian denominations (who canNOT agree among themselves what God is) doesn't PROVE anything!
Here is a Biblical fact.
There are specific people named in the Bible, who are in heaven. I will not quote each here but we are talking less than a dozen folks we know from the Bible who specifically went to heaven.
All of the church denominations have THEIR version on how YOU TOO can get to heaven. And, if you do not adhere to their brand of religiosity, you are doomed. Maybe even excommunicated or shunned for failure to comply with the goofy belief.
And, they find appropriate Biblical phrases to augment their belief. People buy this because people do not think.
On Calvary were three being crucified on Good Friday. Two were thieves. One was the Son of God.
In the course of dying, one thief blasted Christ and yelled "Save us if you're God". The other thief simply said 'can I go with you' and Christ said 'Sure, this day you will be in heaven with me'.
Now to get crucified in Roman times, you as a thief had to be one of the truly bad guys around. This was no saint.
This was no synagogue goer. I bet he knew not one metaphor from the scriptures. He was the worst of the worst, and yet, we KNOW he is one of few that we are sure is IN heaven. Christ spoke it aloud.
Baptism, confession, confirmation, church attendance, tithing, works for the poor and imprisoned, speaking in tongues, political action, proper worship music, going to Sunday school to hear some character's interpretation of the day, Wednesday night "family" service ---in a culture that does not recognise family.....NONE of these got that thief into Heaven.
He just said to God: "I think you are God and I want to be with you".
The deal was sealed and done. All the religiosity and churchianity did him no good whatsoever. And he is one of few we are assured is in heaven.
Don't believe what you hear in church if you want to go to heaven. Believe what the thief who got to heaven believed. The rest is pagan ritual and bunk.
This proves that some people will believe anything.
Do read your scriptures. Then, you can make life miserable for people by quoting the Bible and tell them how wrong they are because YOU say so.
Sometimes, I envy the thieves in our jails.
Ralph, when that thief spoke his needs and beliefs aloud to God, God listened and answered.
It was, if you will, a final prayer of hope.
And it was answered.
In Erie, PA, all of us pee in the toilet, flush it, it goes into Lake Erie, where intake pipes bring it back to your tap in the sink for you to drink EVERYONE'S pee. Cheers!
I will pray for you in your colitis needs, as I pray for my other friend Ralph, in his Chrohn's.
A room full of schoolkids can take a test, and all the questions have an answer. But the answers from the kids view differ.
So too with prayer. All prayer sent out has an answer....all of them.
Sometimes, we do not see the answer, as the kids missed the answer on the test.
Prayer on a cross worked for a thief.
Prayer in our trials of life today has the same answer of .......Grace.
God bless you abundantly in your journey each day and eternally.
Danny,
I don't know what set you off, but obviously I have hit a nerve.
To say that piss (to use a non-scientific term found in the King James Bible) is not waste is ludicrous. Just because it is waste doesn't make it toxic, although urea, which is a result of the body breaking down proteins, is toxic in high quantities.
Here is a link with a skeptical view of urine therapy.
http://skepdic.com/urine.html
The thing to notice about the health claims about urine is that they are so broad. Drinking one's own urine is supposed to cure just about everything.
"Many advocates claim that urine is a panacea. There is practically nothing it won't cure. Urine is said to be effective against the flu, the common cold, broken bones, toothache, dry skin, psoriasis and all other skin problems. It is said to deter aging and is helpful with AIDS, allergies, animal and snake bites, asthma, heart disease, hypertension, burns, cancer, chemical intoxication, chicken pox, enteritis, constipation, and pneumonia. Urine is said to be effective against dysentery, edema, eczema, eye irritation, fatigue, fever, gonorrhea, gout, bloody urine, smallpox, immunological disorders, infections, infertility, baldness, insomnia, jaundice, hepatitis, Kaposi's sarcoma, leprosy, lymphatic disorder, urticaria, morning sickness, hangover, obesity, papilloma virus, parasitoses, gastric ulcer, rheumatism, birthmarks, stroke, congestion, lumbago, typhus, gastritis, depression, cold sore, tuberculosis, tetanus, Parkinson's disease, foot fungus, and diabetes and other endocrine related diseases. "
If urine is made up of only a few chemicals, then it could only treat a few things. Instead it is an alleged cure for everything. When we see claims like this, we should get skeptical.
Ray,
You have not set me off nor have you hit a nerve.
Sorry to disappoint you if that was your intent.
I just believe it important to correct disinformation.
The Internet is filled with information. Sadly, it is filled with disinformation too.
Both are further complicated by "opinion", and that varies by 6 billion people, more or less.
When I read this:
"If urine is made up of only a few chemicals, then it could only treat a few things.", I clearly discern "opinion".
I have always found Ralph's Place to be an open blog, favorable to new ideas. I was unaware of his quest for knowledge in true information on his colitis until this post.
There is so much fact and fiction on the subject, that I truly do not know the answer to Ralph's dilemma and offered my prayers (and correction to your Biblical assertions and opinion) to encourage Ralph in his quest for more knowledge, wisdom, and discernment in his search.
Your first sentence in your first post is scientifically false. It "seems obvious" to you, but then, many things do.
And, a quick search showed the "obvious", unable to hold water.
The body eliminates what it is not using; it is not necessarily a toxin issue as you "seem obvious".
I have seen this in Vitamin takers too. They take the vitamin, and the body passes it out as the body has enough. Hardly a toxin issue; just a balancing act by a marvelously created body at work.
In THIS blog, there seems to be an approach to look at any and all venues on a subject.
From my point of view, Stan is more "set off" about drinking glasses than anyone in any post, however, I suspect he jests.
You may take the same approach when you see my comments in any forum, for I comment widely on many subjects. Since you cannot discern the intent behind my writings, you may observe all my comments as "jest", and then, rest in peace.
I think others are capable of understanding my intent just fine.
I have found that if I insist my interpretation of a Biblical phrase represents the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, it tends to turn people away from my Lord, Jesus Christ.
To that end, when I speak of God, I try to relate it to the situation as undistorted as possible.
I have personally received a wide array of positive feedback in many forums with that approach.
Like this just 4 days ago:
"Comment by Ron
February 10, 2009 @ 6:34 pm #
Danny, that was beautiful. That’s all I can say man, that was the best first comment ever."
MotiveGrounds.com
from this post and comment:
http://www.motivegrounds.com/blog/?p=47
Apparently, Ron LIKES my comment, uh, as "best first comment EVER".
I think he got it exactly right.
Since I have close friends going through the same dilemma as Ralph here, I found the topic of interest to share with them.
Perhaps by gathering as much information on the topic as possible, some good can come out of it, and Ralph seems receptive as I see he said "Danny, Thank You for your comment"
In my comment, I gave fair warning to readers to cease and desist reading if they choose and get some OJ. The balance was for Ralph.
You work on finding the disinformation, and I will concentrate on the information, and things should work out.
What I have written on denomination growth and the fracturing they do to the Lord's Church is directly out of current Barna Stats and should have been clarified as such. They are NOT opinions.
I have never had a sip of pee.....anyones. So, I am not a specialist in the subject. But I do know how to use research tools, discern information, and translate it into a reasonable comment on a topic.
Don't flatter yourself that you can set me off Ray. I have commented widely online and long ago learned a thick skin is relevant to most subjects in discussion.
I am happy to provide Biblical truths when appropriate, but frankly, found their insertion here irrelevant and in need of correction.
I am sure the link you provided may be useful to Ralph. I dunno. I did not read it as I have stated to you, I always prefer to do my own research rather than depend on someone else to tell me the what is truth.
I have no intention of convincing anyone, that "medically",
"spiritually", or "obviously", there is a need to pee or not to pee.
I will find what my other friend has to say, as he is medically up to date for the past decade far more than anyone on this blog post to date.
Happy Valentine's Day Ray.
Have a drink of your choice and celebrate!
Ralph, have you tried medicinal pot for your colitis? Seemed to work for Peter Tosh's reggaemilitis.
Jah Rastafari endureth and liveth. Rasta Man live up!
I am a follower of urine therapy and I endrose the same to others.But I cannot say that this can cure all diseases,because I don't have the experience.Anyone willing to try this therapy most be a practical person.Food plays a measure role and also the quantity and quality of the food is very important.Should not smoke or take alcohol and preferably veg.
Okay, everyone, thanks for your lively comments. I apologize. I have been unable to moderate over the weekend, as home phone lines have been out since last Thursday, and I've been working up at Starbucks (50 cent refills are really cool.)
Stan, I must admit, I thought of your "drinking class" conundrum, but think I can handle the recommended doses with paper cups...
As for the religion stuff, I kind of adhere to Joe Campbell's philosphies of many different angles really addressing the same issues.
As for urine therapy, yes, I am skeptical because of the myriad of diseases it claims to address. And, it's colitis actually that I have, not Crohns, which is not as bad fortunately, from what I can tell. But, it's a big enough annoyance, with the medicine and all, that I am considering urine therapy, mainly based on the recommendation of a fairly intelligent (and open minded) friend. Finally, Bijay's comment about the importance of diet in conjunction with urine therapy rings true based on the limited research I've done. If I'm going to do this, I want to do it correctly, so once again, I appreciate everyone's insightful comments on this topic - but I'd rather leave the Bible out, as I don't consider it a scientific publication and I haven't reached the "looking for a miracle" stage yet. When I do, you'll probably see my story in Guideposts...
Cheers.
Ralph
urine
mine
it's all the same
what about if the person has infection?
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